STATEMENT OF MICHAEL PETIT, DEPUTY DIRECTOR, CHILD
      WELFARE LEAGUE OF AMERICA, INC.


      Mr. PETIT. Madam Chairman and members of the subcommittee,
      I am Michael Petit. I am the deputy director at the Child Welfare
      League of America, a 75-year-old nonprofit organization that
      represents 800 public and private child-serving organizations. About
      2.5 million children a year are served by our member agencies.

      In the last 25 years, I have worked on child welfare issues and
      have traveled to all 50 of the States working to evaluate and
      strengthen their child welfare systems. In the 8 years prior to that,
      I was the commissioner of Maine's Department of Human Services,
      which is that State's child welfare agency. In my travels, I
      discovered that the good news is, like the lady who testified at the
      beginning, there are thousands of individuals privately and within
      agencies who successfully protect children each day and who help
      families learn to better manage their own affairs. Yet, hundreds of
      others -- hundreds of thousands of other children are living in
      dangerous and neglectful situations and most of those children are
      presently known to the authorities. For these children, government at
      all levels is the one thing that stands between them and grave injury.

      It is our strong belief that the Federal role in this instance needs
      to be strengthened, not weakened. The real issue is that which you
      were alluding to earlier, which is that an increasing number of
      families are unable to manage the affairs of their children safely.
      The consequence of that is a State and county child welfare system
      that is so overburdened that many children m danger are literally
      receiving no protection whatsoever.

      On the whole, the child welfare programs that we have visited
      in the country -- and as I said, our work is helping those States to
      evaluate their systems -- are generally severely underresourced.
      There are no States that meet Child Welfare League of America
      standards. We have been setting those standards for nearly 75
      years. We have 11 volumes of such standards.

      The caseloads that we encounter are as much as 100 to 1. Our
      recommended caseload standards in some of those programs are as
      low as 15 to 1.

      With respect to flexibility and block granting, we think that is
      a terrific idea, at one level, the flexibility. But if the States were
      operating to the maximum degree of flexibility and efficiency, they
      would still be severely underresourced. There are simply too many
      families -- States have been virtually overwhelmed by the crush of
      cases that have been brought to their attention.

      The 18 children that you made reference to earlier, Madam
      Chairman, last year in Chicago, that were discovered in a neglectful
      situation, I subsequently met with many agencies across the country
      around that particular issue, It is viewed as a garden-variety type of
      a neglect problem; it is not viewed as an extraordinary case at all.

      Representative McDermott asked what can be done
      programmatically. Among the things we are strongly advancing are




      notions like getting serious with teenage pregnancy and all that
      means. Home visitor programs to certain households, particularly
      teenagers on AFDC, until such time as it is proven that home
      visitations are no longer necessary.

      We have got some excellent models on that: Serious parenting
      instruction; child care in every school in this country, including
      pro-grams that are run by junior and senior high school students; and
      with regards to training, one-half of the States have no preservice
      training right now for the child welfare workers. You can be a
      23-year-old social worker on Friday doing food stamps, and on Monday
      you are talking about somebody who has had sex with their children.

      Having served as a State administrator myself and having
      interviewed hundreds over the years, 427 is a meaningless process for
      most of the States. It represents no kind of sanctions to the States
      whatsoever. It is viewed as a paper tiger.

      Overall, I would give the system a grade of D. The reason why
      is that, for example, half of the kids that are killed in this country
      at the hands of their family members are already previously reported
      to the department. In one study, 40 percent of the kids returned from
      foster care, 1 year later, had been reabused and were back in State
      custody.

      And one area that is seriously neglected is child sexual abuse. It
      is our belief right now that fewer than 1 out of 10 child sexual
      abuse cases in this country, where a felony has been committed, result
      in a prosecution. That means that 90 percent don't have a prosecution.
      And in State after State we ask judges, social workers and others if
      they believe that there are children that they know who are living at
      home with a sexual perpetrator, and the answer is always yes.

      Some States have a much stronger inclination to do this than
      others. Let me give you two States, 3 million people in both States.
      One of them spends $24 million on its entire child welfare system.
      The other one spends $240 million on its child welfare system.
      Block granting anything back to the States is not going to change
      that reality.

      The State's general fund appropriation is $4 million in the first
      instance. In that State, I have visited children in jail, 9 years old,
      whose only offense is to have been sexually abused by an adult, in
      jail because there was no other place to locate the child; children,
      13 years old, in straitjackets because of mental illness, in local
      lockups without legal representation.

      One of the consequences of all this is that telephone calls come
      into jurisdictions in which they are supposed to generate a protective
      investigation. In one jurisdiction we are working with right now, they
      get 30,000 referrals a year. They screen out 24,000, they go out on
      6,000. They don't go out on 24,000. Imagine a comparable situation
      with the local fire department in which there is an inquiry over the
      phone trying to screen out a fire call because of, how hot is the
      smoke and what color is -- what color is the flame?

      Finally, with regards to the paperwork issue that was raised by
      Congressman Matsui, our experience, when we asked social workers
      this question -- we have asked thousands of them, how much of
      your time is spent on paperwork versus families, it ranges from a




      low of 3 percent with families, to not much more than 25 percent
      with families.

      There is a crushing weight of paper. I would submit, though, that
      it is marginally related to Federal reviews. It is mostly related to
      the kinds of legal processes that are going on in the courts.

      And I would just note that on that, when we are talking about
      taking children away from their families, I have a hard time imagining
      something that isn't going to be largely driven by certain legalistic
      considerations. Our testimony includes, I think, some 14
      recommendations which I would be happy to talk about at some point.

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